Animal rights activists are worried

Trump USDA pick has animal-rights activists worried

President-Elect Donald Trump’s recent choice for the person who will head up the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has animal rights activities worried…and rightly so. According to Wednesday’s publication of the Daily KOS, Brian Klippenstein, Executive Director of Protect the Harvest, has been selected to lead the USDA.

The organization that Klippenstein heads up supports puppy mills, and condemns the Humane Society of the United States,  People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), and the Animal Liberation Front (ALF). On the Protect the Harvest website, the agency’s stance is revealed:

The War on Pet Breeders And Stores

Pet breeding has a long, proud tradition in America but it’s facing some serious threats from animal rights groups.

Because you can’t just openly support laws and regulations outlawing pet ownership, HSUS instead works to regulate pet breeders out of business.

The organization also supports “animal entertainment,” such as circuses, and it has spoken out against humane farming practices, citing an increase cost of food, and a prediction that meat will become “scarce.”

If Klippenstein turns a blind eye to puppy-mill operations, the ongoing practice of cruel breeding practices will continue, unchecked. The ASPCA has described the horrific conditions often found at large-scale breeding operations:

Puppy mills usually house dogs in overcrowded and unsanitary conditions without adequate veterinary care, food, water or socialization. In order to maximize profits, female dogs are bred at every opportunity with little-to-no recovery time between litters. In a puppy mill, dogs are often kept in cages with wire flooring that injures their paws and legs—and it is not unusual for cages to be stacked in columns. When female breeding dogs reach a point of physical depletion and can no longer reproduce, they are often killed.

Read more about the Protect the Harvest organization at this link.

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  1. maxiemom says:

    So glad one of you finally wrote a story about this!!! I had a ‘friend’ I recently dropped because of her EXTREME views. She was a friend because of her involvement in animal rescue and animal rights, and, in fact, I met her from commenting on the Examiner.

    I had to drop her because of her hate filled rants about Muslims, Obama, etc. The fact that she was a hypocrite when it came to animals, but voted for someone who was a clear danger to them and the environment, and when questioned hid behind what she called ‘her faith’ was laughable.

    Others asked her how she could support this hatemonger and someone who clearly is a danger to everything she says she holds dear when it comes to animals and the environment,and even God (Trump is not a Christian!) and she was SILENT. (I did answer one person in a private message who asked several times.)

    The hypocrisy was too much and I dropped her. When he followed through and appointed this creep I sent her an email and asked her how she could support Trump, knowing what she KNEW about him, when Hillary’s record was 95-100% positive rated on animal issues. How could she hide behind her religion? Her response? “I will pray for you. A hard heart can leave us so damaged and broken.”

    She was the hate filled one, and people like her brought us to this.

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    • Linda Szymoniak says:

      I have one friend who I simply cannot go to her Facebook feed because of her posts. I’ve refrained from posting anything political on my FB page because I didn’t want anything to detract from what I post about the animals, but every single one of Trump’s nominees has me losing sleep. Climate change, animal welfare, environment, etc. I’m just glad my girls are no longer in school, since the new head of that is pro-privatization of schools. We’ve had to deal with Pence’s idiocy here in Indiana, and now we have to deal with it as VP.

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      • maxiemom says:

        .I worry about every one of his picks, too, each unqualified for his or her job. The education pick is especially scary to me because my son teaches first grade in a very poor school district (despite the lack of funds in the school, he’s been able to dramatically improve their reading skills). Schools here, where he taught last year, are giving kids their own handheld computers for class, whereas the school he teaches at now, in the southern, poorer end of the state, have one computer for the entire class. If that witch becomes education secretary the entire system is doomed.

    • Irene says:

      Maxie. I know someone on FB just like the one you unfriended. Once she started spewing her fear filled BS hatred, I waved goodbye. And I’m not the only one to say that this person is NUTS! But that’s how almost all Trumpanzees are. NUTS!

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      • MARLIES RENEE says:

        Stop being losers!!! Voting for Trump, CLOSED THE BOOK, ON THE CLINTON’S PERVERTED HUSBAND, It finally shut the door on her all her donations from the middle east of which none was used for animal welfare only illegal aliens welfare, it closed the book on Obama who’s only credit is community organizing no military experience, no political experience, nothing! Even after a multi state recount that cost over 4 million SHE STILL LOST, AND Trump mopped up all your nasty floors with her face in the dirty mop water. She is done, she knows you need to accept it. The lead of the FDA, under Obama allowed 50.000 dogs( and paid their tariffs as well) to be sent to Yulin China for brutal beatings, being skinned alive, held down and burned alive, boiled alive while they struggled to climb out but since their paws were chopped off before throwing them in the boiled oil or water they held the lid down some were even hanged while being boiled alive, an 11 million people signed a petition walked it straight to the Chinese Embassy and they wouldn’t even allow them in the front door, What did Hillary do? NOTHING. That 4 million Jill Stein and Hillary used to recount AND STILL LOOSE could have been sent to any animal shelter, or children’s hospital. Trophy hunter’s, WELL WELL , Lets talk about that lady Vetrinarian who shot used a bow and arrow to shoot a feral cat straight thru it’s head held it up on FB bragged about and only lost her license for year, lets talk about the San Francisco dentist who killed Cecil the lion who he deliberately lured out of his sanctuary and killed him. America has over a thousand medical schools that use animals in open surgeries like those Beagal’s who had acid put in their eyes and then killed them because the experience went way wrong or the University of Georgia who was caught pulling out all of the dogs teeth letting their gums heal and killing them just to cut out a two inch piece of jaw bone, WHY, So we humans who don’t take care of our teeth, want better implants, What did Hillary do/ NOTHING IT WAS THE OUTRAGE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO STOPPED IT. You are bashing a man who has done nothing wrong to you, I.E. Trump, just because YOU LOST YOUR FEMALE, I WOULDN’T CALL HER A REAL WOMAN, LIES, MANIPULATIONS, AND FAKE LIFE ALL FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO HER, NOW SHE IS GONE. If you want to make a difference sign up with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine PO BOX 96736 Washington DC ,20077 Contact Karen S. Guice MD, MPP, AS WELL AS James Jones Assistant Administrator, AND Jeffery R. Baker M.D, PhD Dean of Vanderbilt University they will send you a map of all the medical schools who still use animals to brutally experiment on, if you eat meat, (which I don’t) Stop buying from places like Canada, and oh hell if you really don’t like Trump feel free to leave, Canada won’t take you they don’t want anyone who is not patriotic and Mexico won’t take you either. Hillary lost and she lost some more. OH and ask Hillary what she served for dinner the night she held her Thank You dinner for being whipped by Trump, which she could have sent a half the shelter’s in this country if she was such a good American. And I never have to lie, and I also was told by a step-parent to eat some under cooked fish, chased around the house with belt when I said NO, AND I was only 10 years old. Maximom, YOU ARE THE LIAR, I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE.

      • maxiemom says:

        BTW, Marlee’s Renee, let’s get this straight: what Hillary spent on ANYTHING isn’t important here because she: DIDN’T go out and kill any animals; isn’t a hunter; isn’t hiring people to destroy the environment; wouldn’t have hired the scum Trump is attempting to; never supported puppy mills and wouldn’t have hired this monster, either; etc. It’s lovely the way you HYPOCRITES always point fingers at things Hillary does that don’t even compare to this! Same old change the subject, as if WE have the small attention spans you do. Are you going to enjoy that million dollar hunting extravaganza the Trump boys have set for an inaugural fund raiser? I’m betting you’re just dying to get in! It’s only a PREVIEW of things to come. These people have neither shame nor a conscience, but then, you already knew that.

        I was also taught that running around and disobeying my parents, even a stepparent, was WRONG. So was the current occupant of the White House. That message apparently never reached you. It certainly explains a lot……..

        I’m done now with your craziness.

      • Mary Schroeder says:

        Your another fn idiot!!! Theres a place for you its called libtard island you really should check it out.

    • MARLIES RENEE says:

      There are over a thousand animal testing facilities in America alone, Missouri next to Arkansas have the most puppy mills in the country, medical schools are the worst offenders of animal abuse ever known, combining Muslims, Christians, Obama, and Hillary, who has a track record of 121 people dead who had something to say not so good about her, most with a shot to the back of their heads, not an easy task unless your arms are extremely long for the bullet to come out the forehead, what was Hillary OR Obama doing about that? NOTHING, Each state has to enact their own laws like Calif. did when they started not putting egg laying hens in battery cages and even have been sued by other states for not allowing eggs from other states come into Calif. that may have been raised that way. NOW, what had Hillary done exactly? NOTHING she eats meat just like many other’s from the comfort of two mansions in New York, as well as Obama admitting he has eaten DOG MEAT, How can you possibly blame someone I.E Trump for something that hasn’t happened yet? EACH state needs to enact their own laws and enforce them. OR BETTER YET STOP EATING MEAT.

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      • maxiemom says:

        Good grief!!!! Now we have the ‘Hillary killed people’ garbage? Are you INSANE? You also blame Obama for doing something his STEP PARENT FORCED HIM TO DO? As someone who also had a step father who was an AUTHORITARIAN, let me tell you: you CANNOT say ‘no’ when you are told to so something by such a person, especially at such a young age!!! People who blame a small child for obeying a PARENT / STEP PARENT are insane!!! Then you rant about state laws involving things that Hillary has no control over? Get real!!! Look at her VOTING RECORD in the senate on animal rights issues, and stop lying about it! Now look at: Trump’s BIG GAME HUNTING SONS; his own attitude toward animals, especially circuses; his picks, as in this article and the environment; and stop being deliberately ignorant about this subject.

      • MARLIES RENEE says:

        To maximom, NO YOU PUT HER TRACK RECORD OUT THERE, Obamas leader of the FDA paid tariffs to send 50.000 dogs to be slaughtered in Yulin China, fact!!!!!!!!, Almost every medical school in this country uses animals alive to torture, in the name of medicine what are you prepared to do? Have you signed any petitions to stop this or are you just ignorant in name calling!!! You are just another loser like Hillary and Obama. Sorry you lost, but it is an individual state wide effort to report, and follow thru with animal abuse, what have you done? I take in street dogs, and search for the ones I don’t see, Does Hillary eat meat/ I’m sure she enjoys the best with what little donations she is getting. Live your own life, and stop blaming Trump for something that has NOT happened yet.

      • maxiemom says:

        “You are just another loser like Hillary and Obama.”

        I didn’t call you names: what I DID was point out that yes, you are an ignorant jerk, and that you are.

        Where do you get off being such a self righteous jerk and misjudging someone like that? You’re a complete a*****e.

        Obama sent dogs to China for them to slaughter for food? That’s one even my crazy rightwing nutbag former friend didn’t even go with. It didn’t happen! MOST medical schools in this country, thank God, no longer use real animals, and YES, I DO sign petitions. You are a nasty piece of work, and a despicable ‘human being’. Saving animals does NOT make you a decent person: Hitler was very fond of his dog, Blondie, before he poisoned him. You sound very much like the same sick type of personality. Now find someone else to pick a fight with. I have better things to do.

      • maxiemom says:

        “You are just another loser like Hillary and Obama.” I am not the loser, pal. The LOSER is the one who voted for Putin’s puppet, not me, and who resorted to a statement like that one to begin with. What I did was point out that your STATEMENTS were ignorant , which they were. You and that phony news stuff! That’s what one would expect from you Trumpers!

        No, Obama did NOT send dogs to China. That’s one that former friend of mine didn’t even spout.

        Then there’s all the garbage about ME, which of course, is based upon your own bigotry, animosity, and personal misjudgment: in short, you are full of it. Of the two of us, the LEAST likely to help and animal is the one who supports a candidate who is against them, and that would be YOU.

        My guess is you’d feel right at home here. Have fun. https://petrescuereport.com/2016/inauguration-fundraiser-hunting-trip-trump-sons-1-million/

        Now, I have better things to do than argue with another crazy Trumper.

      • maxiemom says:

        “You are just another loser like Hillary and Obama.” You’re the one quoting phony news stories here and making false and bigoted A$$umptions about me based on your own prejudices and hatred for Democrats, and you call me a loser? It only proves how ignorant you are, just like your voting for Putin’s puppet did.

        BTW, read Cheryl’s story about the Trump boys million dollar inauguration fundraiser. I’ll bet it’s right up your alley and is sure to be a preview of things to come.

      • linda says:

        FDA tariffs did not pay for slaughtering dogs in China and medical schools in the US and Canada no longer use live animals. The last school that stopped (after many that hadn’t)using live animals was in Tennessee in July 2016. You need to do your homework!!!!

      • linda says:

        Medical schools do not use live animals any longer. DO YOUR HOMEWORK! TN was the last one in July 2016 that stopped. DO YOUR FACT CHECKING!!!!

    • Laura Austin says:

      I and many others would like to know what Obama did for the animals, etc. Wild Horses, Puppy Mills and Shelter Animals. So please do explain to us exactly what he has actually done for any of them.

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    • Mary Schroeder says:

      You r an idiot!!! But its ok for saudi arabia to fill her bank account when they r chopping off peoples heads but clinton says shes for human rights, wheres your head at??

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  2. resqdogz says:

    From their website: Keep America Free, Fed, and Fun!”

    Interpretation:

    Free = free from regulation, registration, and responsible, humane practices and procedures of any type, and under any circumstances
    Fed = all of the above, unhampered and unhindered by humane practices and moral, ethical treatment of animals in the food industry
    Fun = FREE TO KILL ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING FOR “SPORT” AND “ENTERTAINMENT”!

    It’s one thing for tRump to inflict his damage on OUR species (who have the right AND ability to FIGHT BACK), but now he’s intent on wreaking havoc, mayhem, and disaster upon helpless fauna worldwide… both domesticated and wild!

    God help us… GOD HEP THEM!

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  3. Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

    Although I cannot say enough against puppy mills and the horror they force innocent canines to endure I applaud Mr.Trump’s pick on his stand against PETA and HSUS. Neither are as animal friendly as their PR would like ypu to believe and both have large “KILL” numbers; needlessly euthanizing animals that they claim to be rescuing.

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  4. maxiemom says:

    Marlie’s Reneen just another ignorant, crazy Trumper spouting trash gleaned from phony news and spewing hate like they all do in a lot of incoherent rants. Grow up.

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    • MARLIES RENEE says:

      PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SPELL, LIKE I SAID YOU ARE NOT WORTH IT!! I WOULD TAKE AN DOG OVER YOU OR ANY ANIMAL FOR THAT MATTER OVER YOU ANY DAY STOP SENDING ME E-MAILS.

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  5. MARLIES RENEE says:

    Maxi mom, I didn’t say Obama sent the dogs to China, the FDA DID, !!! you are atttacking a man who has done nothing to animals and I gave you the names of the doctors who advocate against animal testing that’s all the home work I needed. You need to do YOUR HOME WORK AND LOOK IT ALL UP Livermore Lab in Calif. still TESTS on live animals Like I said you .lost the election and now be a Patriotic American and accept it. after ALL YOU REALLY HAVE NO PLACE TO RUN TO NOONE WILL TAKE YOU, WHILE YOU ENJOY THAT STEAK YOU ARE HAVING FOR DINNER, I DON’T EAT MEAT HAVEN’T FOR OVER 20 YEARS CAN YOU SAY THAT? HELL NO.

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    • maxiemom says:

      Marlee’s Renee Give every single one of us here a break from your Trumper nonsense! What does ” Obamas leader of the FDA paid tariffs to send 50.000 dogs to be slaughtered in Yulin China, fact!!!!!!!!”, if not that President Obama is the one behind it? You are LYING when you say that “Maxi mom, I didn’t say Obama sent the dogs to China, the FDA DID, !!!”, because your IMPLICATION was clear! What I truly HATE about people like you is that when you’re caught in a lie, you never fess up, but try to wiggle out of it with nonsense like that. Then the “you .lost the election and now be a Patriotic American and accept it. after ALL YOU REALLY HAVE NO PLACE TO RUN TO NOONE WILL TAKE YOU” WHAT???? I AM A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN!!! I am descended from the ONLY one of the ORIGINAL Jamestown settlers known to have left descendants and can trace a Revolutionary War patriot on every single branch of my family tree, and YES, I can even trace an ancestor sitting in the room where they were writing the Constitution, so don’t you DARE tell me that I am not a patriotic American!! I VALUE this country a lot more than you do, which is why I could never, ever vote for a despot like Trump, who is the OPPOSITE of everything the Constitution stands for and is in no way qualified to be President. Where do you even get off ATTEMPTING to tell anyone to RUN??????? You are one more right wing fascist who feels the need to tell the MAJORITY of people in this country who are opposed to Trump how to think, and if we don’t like it, we need to get out or hide. That is not how this country works, but you and your ilk think you can tell others how to live. Just crawl back into your hole. You are the minority here just as you are everywhere else. Good riddance and grow up.

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      • Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

        Please give us a break from your vile language and insults. To be quite honest, it seems to me that you are much more intolerant than we poor, misguided Trumpers are. You belabor the fact that your family can trace it’s way back to Jamestown but fail to state just how that makes you any more or less than a descendant of someone who had no place in England and so had to come here. You did nothing to deserve any special status and should not claim superiority simply because you happen to be a member of what some might refer to as “the lucky sperm club”. We right wing fascists are not the ones challenging the “Electoral College’ threatening to violently interfere with the transition from President Obama to President-elect Trump; making unfounded accusations; whining for comfort accommodations (therapists paid for by someone else), days off from class or cancellation of tests, emotional support animals; all this because you cannot concentrate since you cannot face the fact that your candidate LOST. This whining and kvetching from people whose one claim to fame is being descended from real patriots who started a revolution over, among other things, a tax on a breakfast beverage.Please, get over yourself. Your attitude mirrors your candidate’s so uch that if you want to understand why she lost just look in the mirror.

      • maxiemom says:

        Patricia Kathryn Hodges Hmmm…. Seems to me you are DELIBERATELY misreading my comment. Yes, I am proud, and justifiably so, of my ancestors. HOWEVER, I didn’t point them out to brag, merely as a retort to someone who had the AUDACITY to tell me TO RUN AND HIDE, which you conveniently (I may add) choose to overlook. Do you have any idea how many of you Trumpers have said that to me and others or told us to LEAVE this country? Sorry, my point is I have every right to be here! My family has been here for over 400 years and paid dearly for the privilege: without them, there would be no country, so sorry if YOU find that offensive. It IS the truth. You apparently missed the lessons in your history class about the electoral college and what it’s for: it is there to PREVENT a demagogue, or someone unfit by constitutional standards, from ever becoming president. The Founders, quite frankly, didn’t trust democracy, or more especially, the people, feeling that people can be misled. The election of Trump is exactly WHY there are electors, and whether you like it or not, if they do their duty, they wouldn’t vote to give him the White House. Odds are that won’t happen, but given what we now know about Russian interference, and what we knew about Trump to begin with, it should. It has nothing to do with my candidate losing, and what’s truly SICKENING is that Republicans cannot find any patriotism to even want to look into this before putting someone in the White House who was, by all the evidence they now have, in Putin’s pocket. That’s disgusting.

      • maxiemom says:

        “This whining and kvetching from people whose one claim to fame is being descended from real patriots who started a revolution over, among other things, a tax on a breakfast beverage.”

        Don’t know anything about American history either, do you? Or tea, apparently, since it’s a LOT more than a ‘breakfast beverage’. The more you talk, the more you explain.

      • Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

        maxiemom, it seems that you don’t understand irony. I am aware that it was not just the tax on tea that sparked the Revolutionary War but that was a simple observation on the wimping out of this country. It seems that rather than rise up against what one perceives as a wrong many would rather whine, complain and find their safe space.It bothers me since I cannot envision individuals like that being very successful as animal advocates. Forgive me if I am wrong but some of the millennial “touchy/feely” attitude scares me silly; especially when I see them crying out that animals should not be property but rather considered “animal companions”. Granted, on the face of it, this proposal seems quite laudable however, if one probes a bit further it will be discovered that once a person gives up “ownership” of his/her pet they automatically give up their property rights. This means that, if an outsider decides that you don’t treat your animal in a way they approve or they think your pet is a dangerous or nuisance breed there is the potential that, with little or no proof, said “animal companion” can be taken away without due process and held u til an investigation is held. Yes, this is, in some cases, not necessarily a bad thing in the case of real animal abuse but it is dangerous to allow the possibility that one malicious individual can take a loved animal away from its home.Let’s take the politics out of this discussion and focus on the animals; it is the only way to be effective and do any good at all; okay?

      • maxiemom says:

        “Vile language and insults’? Naturally you’ve chosen to ignore the fact that I brought up my family history in relation to Marlie’s Renee’s THREAT to me to RUN AND HIDE, something so many right wingers feel they have the right to tell people to do these days, along with the other “leave the country”. Telling her WHY I have a perfect right to be here and proud of my own history is a form of telling her where to put it with her vile suggestion. I have every right to be proud of my ancestors: I can’t help it if you’re jealous. When you whine about your people having no place in England, you might consider that some of mine also came here in rather a hurry just ahead of Cromwell’s forces, or those of King James, as a number of them came here either trying to rid England of James and Cromwell and trying to keep Charles I on the throne along with trying to put Charles II on the throne. There were the others, too, for religious reasons, so don’t pretend YOU are the only one whose ancestors had to come here. One thing I do know: those people you so nastily turned your nose up at are the reason politics are in my DNA.

        That you don’t understand what the electoral college is for is obvious. There is NOTHING unfounded when the entire intelligence community agrees that Russia interfered with our election to get Trump elected. That you have no idea that tea isn’t just a “breakfast drink” is disgusting, just as it’s disgusting that you appear to have no clue what started the Revolution in the first place! “This whining and kvetching from people whose one claim to fame is being descended from real patriots who started a revolution over, among other things, a tax on a breakfast beverage.” Then this: ” whining for comfort accommodations (therapists paid for by someone else), days off from class or cancellation of tests, emotional support animals”- nothing but ignorant, right wing hate brought to you from Fox (phony) and other phony news sites. No wonder you voted for that hate monger.

        Now, I’ve had enough of both you and your friend. This is about animals, not Trump. Go to a political site if you want to argue about him.

      • maxiemom says:

        Patricia Kathryn Hodges ” Forgive me if I am wrong but some of the millennial “touchy/feely” attitude scares me silly; especially when I see them crying out that animals should not be property but rather considered “animal companions””. Why the hell did you even come to this site in the first place? I’ll tell you why: you saw an article about your boy Trump’s pick and you HAD to come and whine about how people were attacking it! You came here to do EXACTLY what you have been doing. You are a troll, yet you have the colossal NERVE to chide me about saying word one to you about YOUR vile behavior!!!! You can’t speak to anything I’ve brought up because there is no defense for any of Trump’s behavior in an inaugural hunt; Ivanka using fur from animals being skinned alive; etc., yet you continue to deflect and keep on acting like YOU are the aggrieved party, something I am royally sick of. You claim ‘irony’ for a supposed joke that fell flat, when it spoke volumes about the sheer ignorance behind you.

        “This means that, if an outsider decides that you don’t treat your animal in a way they approve or they think your pet is a dangerous or nuisance breed there is the potential that, with little or no proof, said “animal companion” can be taken away without due process and held u til an investigation is held.” That’s utter poppycock! Pets are nothing but property RIGHT NOW, and this is being done. It is being done BECAUSE THEY ARE PROPERTY!!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!

  6. Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

    Don’t want to be political…you started this tirade. However I would ask you to do research about the Trump selections before you start condemning them out of and. Just who would you have preferred in this individual’s place? You seem to want to stall and obstruct with offering any constructive suggestions for an alternative.Just a thought.

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    • maxiemom says:

      I HAVE done my research about them. Apparently, you haven’t. This article is about one of them, the implications of which also seems to have escaped you. “This tirade”, as you call it, is something you mouthed off about after I commented on this article. YOU could have left it at that., but you just couldn’t help yourself.

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      • Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

        re: property. No, this is not being done now; at least not without a warrant which must be granted by a judge after complainants show due cause. It is not ideal since it also hinders rescue groups from entering property when abuse is “suspected” but it is some protection. This attempt to remove our property rights to our pets is being promoted by PETA which, IMHO, should stand for Predators for the Eradication of Trusting Animals. If you can’t see what I am getting at then I won’t tell you to wake up but, rather, suggest that you dream on;. No response is necessary here since I am done with your feeble rhetoric and capital letters.

      • maxiemom says:

        Shaking head at sheer ignorance. NO, I am not a fan of PETA. Far from it. Anyone who knows anything about them isn’t (that assumption on your part is yet one more siily one). But the idea that PETA is behind the idea of wanting pets to be anything other than property is insane. It has NOTHING to do with PETA, who doesn’t even want human beings to have pets in the first place! Once again you’re rattling on about things you know nothing about. If pets are more than property, it would make it a lot harder for; them to be removed; cops to shoot them for no reason; anyone to ban a breed; etc. Your ‘argument is simply illogical.

    • maxiemom says:

      BTW, what, exactly, do you think that cops shooting family pets is but the removal / seizing of your pet / property without a warrant??? It happens every NINE MINUTES in this country!!! They don’t have to have a warrant, or be in your yard because of anything you did, or for any real reason. There are cases when a cop simply came by to ask directions and ended up shooting and killing the family dog. They kill dogs for simply looking at them funny, barking, while running away, when they’re chained, in a cage, in the next yard, etc. I get so damned frustrated with people like you who want to keep them as property because it allows these gun happy cowards (and that’s what they are when they shoot in the majority of these cases) to continue to use them as target practice and kill them for no reason with impunity. If they are considered by law what most of us consider them, as FAMILY, then cops have to think twice before pulling that trigger. Your attitude is a huge problem. It isn’t PETA that wants the change: it’s PET OWNERS who love their pets. You obviously have no clue what that’s about, either.

      Also, you use capital letters for effect, too.

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      • Patricia Kathryn Hodges says:

        That is where you are wrong. Without the protection of ownership you (owner) would have no right to file a complaint or got into court to charge the criminal that shot your dog.Before you decide to pontificate please do your due diligence. How long have you worked in animal rescue? Do you have a rehabber license? Have you ever received training from your state’s Fresh Water Fish & Game Department? Do you have a raptor license? These questions seem more pertinent that your little snide shot about capital letters. Please, let’s end this; it is just a waste of time and while I don’t know about you, I do have animals that need my attention. Goodbye.

      • maxiemom says:

        Right. Once again, you FAIL to use your brain. If pets were anything other than property, as I said, they wouldn’t be killed by cops at such an alarming rate. The sheer ignorance of the statement that “without the protection of ownership you (owner) would have no right to file a complaint or got into court to charge the criminal that shot your dog” proves that you have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s only because people view pets as FAMILY that these suits are now being taken seriously and aren’t being thrown out of court as they once were. They were once being given only ‘the value of the dog / pet’, which amounts to almost nothing. If they are viewed as what they are, which is family, they are given the value which you see in today’s judgments against trigger happy scum, neighbors and their ilk. You need to get a clue on every single front. Yes, by all means end this by STUDY, please. I don’t like back and forth with people who think they know things but fail to engage their common sense and brain cells.

      • NANCI LITTLE says:

        Cops are the cowards and bullies who are BORN among us, thus their love of a job that pays them to terrorize people, taze and pepper spray anyone they want to for LITTLE reason, throw people around and manhandle them, and yes, kill with impunity and without punishment. Cops p!ss their pants and pull their guns at the SIGHT of a family dog, and if it BARKS, well…. reason enough to shoot! They then get to FORCE the family to stay away from their beloved pet screaming in agony with threats of arrest! They are sadistic human beings, and the screaming of the dog and the screaming of the family is the supreme pleasure to a sadistic cop. (I have been married to two ex cops, who left that job due to those people that they had to work with who were exactly as I am describing.) Think about firefighters vs. cops. Firefighters RUN INTO obvious danger, hoping to SAVE someone OR something… yes, even if it is the terrified growling Pitbull backed into a corner of a smoke filled room. Cops? They CREEP into POSSIBLE danger, gun drawn, hoping to SHOOT someone OR something… ESPECIALLY if it is the family’s overly friendly dog that might have barked a welcome! Sadists are a world wide sickness, but this country has MORE than its share ON our police forces! Sadism is a SIN and they will pay someday, but as for me? I do a happy dance every time that ‘someday’ comes for one of them.

  7. NANCI LITTLE says:

    BY THE WAY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION JUST STRIPPED ALL USDA INFO ON PUPPY MILL INSPECTIONS FROM THE USDA WEBSITE. PUPPY MILL DOGS AND PUPPIES ARE NOW UNPROTECTED AND WILL BE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS! THIS PRESIDENT WON’T EVEN TOUCH AN ANIMAL, PENCE IS ANTI ANIMAL WELFARE (12 YRS IN CONGRESS & A HUMANE SCORE OF ZERO!) AND THEIR BEST BUDDY, REP. STEVE KING OF IOWA, WANTS DOG FIGHTING AND CRUELTY TO ANIMALS MADE LEGAL.. NOT A TYPO, HE WANTS IT ALL TO BE LEGAL. TORTURE A DOG, YOU ARE A OK WITH THESE GUYS. STARVE HORSES TO DEATH, YOU ARE A OK WITH THEM. AMERICA WILL HAVE MILLIONS MORE OF POORLY CARED FOR, CARELESSLY BRED PUPPIES FLOODING THE HUMANE SOCIETIES AND PUT TO SLEEP FOR LACK OF HOMES….BUT THAT IS A OK WITH THESE REPUBLICANS. WAKE UP SO CALLED ANIMAL LOVERS! . A VOTE FOR TRUMP WAS A VOTE FOR LEGALIZED CRUELTY!

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